I get Groupon emails. I like Groupon emails. People I know are avid Groupon fans, including my mom, who regularly buys stuff through Groupon and lets it collect, saving it for a rainy day I suppose.
Even I have purchased from Groupon not knowing when or if I would ever use what I bought. To this day I have a dental exam Groupon just a-waiting to be used!
The service is so cool that I became an affiliate and even displayed Groupon ads on this site for awhile. They are still regularly displayed via Google Adsense and I still include affiliate links to Groupon.
From the customer perspective, Groupon is a no-brainer. But what’s it like from the perspective of a business owner? Do they feel the same way?
Not according to Karyn Climans, a regular bizchickblogs contributor and small business owner living in Canada. Karyn wrote in a blog post about Groupon last week,
“As a small business owner, I have been approached several times to enlist Groupon (plus other similar companies) to help promote sales of my adorable helmet covers (www.tail-wags.com). The problem is I would actually be losing money if I went along with the scheme.”
Karyn goes on to talk about the way that Groupon makes money – which, quite frankly, is genius for them but not-so-great for business owners. Groupon asks their clients (the business owners) to mark down their products/services at least 50%. Then, Groupon collects 50% of the sale price. So when you get all happy about the $15 30-minute massage at some salon in your town, remember that Groupon’s collecting $7 of that! Wow.
Last year, Extreme John wrote a post titled, “6 Reasons I Won’t Use Groupon to Market My Business” where he listed some personal reasons why he chose not to work with Groupon on the marketing for his tanning business. Among them were a couple of customer service related issues as well as one that echoed Karyn’s reason above – the jarring 50% that Groupon wants to take eats into profit margins (and in Karyn’s case, eats all the way to the point where she would be losing money on each sale).
Yeah, But, Groupon Must Be Doing Something Right
It’s clear that the 50% cut makes Groupon an impossibility for some businesses, especially those with lower profit margins than you’ll find in service industries. But what we do know is that for many businesses, Groupon can spur significant growth and profit. Below are three things to consider when looking into Groupon or any similar service for marketing your business.
1. Before you consider it affordable or not, weigh all options.
The Groupon service is marketing. Ultimately it provides a two-fold service. It gets your name in front of a heck of a lot of people waving their wallets, and it also does the direct selling on your behalf. Even if for some wacky reason your offer didn’t really sell, you would still have received a considerable amount of exposure.
Before you decide whether or not you can afford Groupon, take a look at your marketing picture as a whole. It’s possible that Groupon could replace some marketing activities. It may be a better option for some of you, because the costs are not upfront as they would be with many other marketing tactics.
On the other hand, the cost of Groupon may be more than your marketing budget allows, and may bring in fewer sales than other tactics you’ve planned. Bottom line: Put your thinking cap on rather than jumping to any conclusions about affordability.
2. Are you ready for the rush?
One of the common negative issues businesses report with Groupon is the inability to handle the rush after the Groupons go out. If you’ve ever used Groupon before, you know that some businesses are totally ill-equipped to handle it. My mom once experienced a night out where the server never actually deducted from/used the Groupon, so to the restaurant’s demise, my mom could easily go back within the expiration date and get another meal practically free (not that she would, but she could). That’s not the only time it’s happened, either. Staff that’s not prepared for Groupon could result in serious loss of profit, not to mention irritated customers.
Conversely, if you’re completely and adequately prepared for the rush, you’ll end up with a whole bunch of happy customers, and that’s the whole goal.
3. Have you crafted the right offer?
Nothing gets under my skin more than to have gotten some sort of deal that isn’t really a deal, or to be treated like a new military enlistee, forced to abide by all of the establishment’s “Groupon Rules.” I walked into a Tucson-area restaurant that had apparently been burned by the Groupon experience because the very first thing they displayed at the host’s podium was a big sign listing all of their Groupon rules – basically everything the Groupon did NOT cover, which of course was everything that anyone would want. What a joke!
Businesses that use Groupon that way are paving themselves a path of social promo disaster. If you treat Groupon customers like they are trying to take advantage of you, what happens is that you as the business comes off looking like a jerk. After all, it’s your offer. You alone are responsible for figuring out the right offer so that your business doesn’t lose money.
That said, crafting the right offer could work out really well. For example, dentists offering $30 cleanings and exams are in a good position to profit, since those procedures are largely service based (so profit margins are super high) and they’re also something every potential patient has to go through on their way to the more expensive procedures like root canals and crowns.
The follow-up is just as important to success as the offer itself, though. Using the example above, the dentist offering such a Groupon should have a flawless intake system in place, and should map out a plan for patients who don’t make a follow-up appointment during that visit. If those things aren’t done, then the leads portion of the Groupon experience for the business will be completely wasted and that’s such a valuable asset!
What has your experience been with Groupon, either as a happy Groupon purchaser or as a business owner?
@MegEtheridgeTorrie Yeah that is pretty messed up! 10 minutes to take your clothes off and 10 minutes to put them back on is ridiculous, and they should know that it’s not your problem how much time they need to prepare for the next guest! lol
@John Garrett They came out with Facebook Deals! I just read an article somewhere that said that Facebook Deals were ending soon. I guess it just didn’t work. I have no idea what they were charging businesses and if that was the reason.
So funny what you said about saving 100% by just not buying something you didn’t want. I am doing a lot more of that. Luckily, I really do not want much!
I just used my first groupon for the first time last Saturday! EPIC FAIL! Tucson’s “Beauty Bar” advertised a 60 minute Massage for 1/2 price! I drove all the way across town to a quaint little (hole in the wall Salon) intent on not judging this place by it’s shabby storefront only to start my Massage 10 minutes late and it ended 10 minutes EARLY!!! Although the therapist gave me a Quality massage (of which I tipped her for the time I got out of her) I questioned management as to WHY my 1-Hour Massage was so SHORT!?!?
Her Reply: “Our 60 minute massages consist of 10 minutes of time to let you disrobe and 10 to let you get redressed and let us get the room set up for the NEXT GUEST…”
ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME??? Needless to say; “Lesson learned!” I will be sure to spread the word about my dissatisfying – falsely advertised – EXPERIENCE!!! ((I’m SO GLAD YOU POSTED ABOUT GROUPON))
@Tia Peterson You’re absolutely right, they gotta be prepared for the bum rush! I also agree that Groupon is a great way to get your name on the map. As I said above, I’ve discovered some places that I never would have discovered without seeing it in a Groupon. So still totally worth it!
@ayuboco Like you said, they gotta be strong and enforce the policy. But they didn’t want to lose them as possible future customers, so they just took both Groupon’s at the same time.
@Tia Peterson I just push enter twice to start a new paragraph and it looks great before I hit ‘post comment’, then it jumbles it all together in one paragraph.
I also purchased from Groupon just because the particular deal was so good even though I didn’t really want the product! Think of how much money I’ve saved!
Although I would have saved 100% of the money if I would just not buy something I didn’t want. Oh well…
I have to admit I never thought about it from the business owner’s perspective. These could be some hard lessons if you didn’t consider them carefully.
Didn’t Facebook come out with some coupon deal or something? Too lazy to Google it lol…
@MorganBarnhart I think the bum rush thing can be avoided; it just needs to be planned for. I think smaller businesses go into Groupon not realizing how successful it could be, so they just aren’t equipped. I say, go into it knowing that it will totally slam you for awhile, and that is a good thing!!
I think Groupon is like the Yellow Pages still is in some communities: crazy expensive but a total must-do for businesses in that community. Groupon is how businesses get their name on the map, especially small businesses in a major metropolitan area.
@MorganBarnhart What is not formatted correctly? I’ll take a look. Livefyre strips out HTML by the way except for links.
@MorganBarnhart Oh my! Talk about greedy. Unfortunately, that’s the one of the big problems of using a third-party voucher. Then again, I did check on the Groupon page and it’s written in their terms that only one Groupon voucher per person per visit is written in their fine print section. So, I guess it’s also on the part of the business owner to enforce the policies.
Also, I’m not sure why my comments aren’t formatting correctly…hm…
Hi Tia!I, too, love to buy Groupon’s. But I also know that it’s really bad for business. I knew someone who did a Groupon and she was not only bum rushed, like you pointed out, but she was also put in the position of having to take two Groupon’s at once from the same person because even though it was against policy, she didn’t want to lose their business. Did they purchase more? Maybe only 20% that got a Groupon bought more from them in the future and stayed for the long-haul. In the end, it’s really, really bad for business. It does make me aware of more businesses, though, which is a good thing. I have gone to places that I’ve seen on Groupon just to check them out, without buying the Groupon. So you never know. It may be a scheme, but it may work better for some than others.
Hi Sarah, you can check out one of the blog posts that I wrote about group discount sites like Groupon and Ensogo: http://life-and-leisure.com/news/group-discount-sites-too-good-to-be-true
@Tia Peterson Maybe they had such a horrible experience with me that they gave up Blogger outreach
I hope their model does come around, as it can help a lot of the right kinds of businesses get some exposure.
I am interested to hear what other people think and how they use Groupon
@SarahArrow Wow that sounds horrendous. LOL I have never once been approached by Groupon. I didn’t know they did blogger outreach!
Sucks for them as I would have helped but not now after hearing about their major disorganization issues!
I agree that they have an agenda that, at least on the surface, appears not particularly business-friendly. I really enjoy getting the emails and purchasing things that I think are good deals – and even to me as a customer it seems like the businesses have got to be losing money on them.
When Groupon first started, they were actually gigantic snobs, only accepting some companies they thought would sell a ton of product. Now they’ll take pretty much any company that wants to sell through them. They’ve also built their business substantially on commissioned sales people. I remember looking into the sales job and realizing that their genius would be my demise (because I’d work my butt off and they’d get the glory).
I think their model is coming around. Hopefully it will continue to improve. Right now they do seem like sharks, waving the massive email lists in front of desperate business owners. Many copycat startups have emerged. I really like Daily Gourmet, which is similar but not based on the group thing. I think those who refine Groupon’s biz model will do really well.
Provided, of course, that they are not jerks.
It’s not for me. I don’t buy the deals (as I know what the business gets) and I have nothing that I will offer as a deal.
I have spoke to Groupon on a few occasions, they wanted a blogger to review something urgently, I dropped everything to help the business, sourced and briefed the reviewer and 3 weeks later they got back to me to say they had changed their mind.
The second time they asked for a guest post, so I asked for guidelines and the response was “oh just send us anything” I asked them to break that down further and they said about 500 words on a lifestyle topic. Okay… so I sent them 500 words on shopping in London and they replied it wasn’t what they were looking for, so I replied with their remit saying well if this is what you ask me to work to, then no it won’t be what you are looking for.
Then the guy rang me and said he was only looking for high traffic posts and what I had sent was nice but not controversial enough and that he realised it was his fault for not having guidelines. I smiled politely and have never spoken to them since. They have an agenda, I don’t think it’s small business friendly.
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